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How to control both Strymon TimeLine + Line6 M5 by MIDI Grande?
#1
Hi,

I recently purchase a Midi Grande 10F1D, I'm new with midi programming and manual doesn't really help me...
I wish to use midi grande to change preset in my Strymon Timeline and Line6 M5... at the same time.

For instance: Press a single switch on midi grande for preset 2 on Timeline and preset 3 on M5 .
How can I do that?
Plus I wish use some switches of Midi Grande for tap tempo on both (I guess is not possible use ONE single switch as a global tap for both?) and On/Off line6 M5...

Thanks in advance for any hints o for put me in the right direction.
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#2
Hi Posa.68,
I think all is possible. First set each your guitar effects on another MIDI channel. For example, Line6 M5 on channel 1 and Strymon Timeline on channel 2. How to do it, you will find in the manuals for each effect.

Then enable four commands in global settings of MIDI Grande: PC and CC on channel 1 for Line6 M5 and PC and CC on channel 2 for Strymon Timeline:
  • Press and hold Edit/Save button for cca 5 seconds. The display shows: GLOB. You are in global configuration mode.
  • Release the button, the display shows: 1 PC. It means that the first command is PROGRAM CHANGE - PC.
  • Press the Param> button, the display shows: 1C 1. It means that the first command is on MIDI channel 1You will address the device (Line6 M5) that receives on channel 1.

  • Press the Param> button, the display shows: 2---. It means that the second command is globally disabled. Use the Value> button to set it to CONTROL CHANGE, the display shows: 2 CC.
  • Press the Param> button, the display shows: 2C 2. It means that the second command is on MIDI channel 2 by default. Use the <Value button to set it to 1 because you will address the device (Line6 M5) that receives on channel 1 even by the second command. The display will show: 2C 1.

  • Press the Param> button, the display shows: 3---. It means that the third command is globally disabled. Use the Value> button to set it to PROGRAM CHANGE, the display shows: 3 PC.
  • Press the Param> button, the display shows: 3C 3. It means that the third command is on MIDI channel 3 by default. Use the <Value button to set it to 2 because you will address the device (Strymon Timeline) that receives on channel 2 by the third command. The display will show: 3C 2.

  • Press the Param> button, the display shows: 4---. It means that the fourth command is globally disabled. Use the Value> button to set it to CONTROL CHANGE, the display shows: 4 CC.
  • Press the Param> button, the display shows: 4C 4. It means that the fourth command is on MIDI channel 4 by default. Use the <Value button to set it to 2 because you will address the device (Strymon Timelinethat receives on channel 2 by the fourth command. The display will show: 4C 2.

  • Press shortly Edit/Save button.
You have finished the global settings for addressing two devices on channel 1 and 2.

Then you want to set for example red layer of register 5 in the first bank to switch preset 3 on Line6 M5 and preset 2 on Strymon Timeline:
  • Press register 5, the display shows: 15-1. It means that you are in the bank 1register 5layer 1 - red.
  • Press shortly Edit/Save button to enter the layer edit mode.
  • The display shows: 1  5 and the PC dot lights up. It means that the first command is PROGRAM CHANGE (PC) #5 is set for this layer. Use <Value and Value> buttons to set #3. When you change the program number on MIDI Grande, it is immediately sent to MIDI OUT and the Line6 M5 (or another MIDI-controlled device) responds by changing the program number. The display will show: 1  3. According to the global settings, you always address the Line6 M5 presets by the first command.
  • Press the Param> button, the display shows: 2--- and the CC dot lights up. It means that you edit the second command, it is CONTROL CHANGE and it is disabled in this layer.
  • Press the Param> button, the display shows: 3--- and the PC dot lights up. It means that you edit the third command, it is PROGRAM CHANGE (PC) and it is disabled in this layer. Use <Value and Value> buttons to set #2. The display will show: 3  2. According to the global settings, you always address the Strymon Timeline presets by the third command.
  • Press the Param> button, the display shows: 4--- and the CC dot lights up. It means that you edit the fourth command, it is CONTROL CHANGE and it is disabled in this layer.
  • Press shortly Edit/Save button. The settings of bank 1register 5layer 1 are saved.
Now when you press the register 5, Line6 M5 switches to preset 3 and Strymon Timeline switches to preset 2.
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#3
By default, all registers are in Program mode. It means that when you press for example register 1, all other registers light off and only register 1 lights red (on first press) or green (on second press).

Let's determine register 6 for controlling the tap tempo on both devices. For such purpose, it is suitable that the register 6 is Stompbox mode. When a register is in the Stompbox mode, it still lights red or green and it doesn't affect the registers that are in Program mode.

  • Press and hold Edit/Save button for cca 5 seconds. The display shows: GLOB. You are in global configuration menu.
  • Press shortly register 6. The display shows: 6PGM. It means that the register 6 is in Program mode.
  • Press the Value> button to set 6STO. It means that Register 6 is in Stompbox mode.
  • Press shortly Edit/Save button.
You have finished the global settings of register 6.


Now let's set the CC commands on register 6 for controlling the tap tempo on both Line6 M5 and Strymon Timeline:

  • Press register 6, the display shows: 16-1. It means that you are in the bank 1register 6layer 1 - red.
  • Press shortly Edit/Save button to enter the layer edit mode.

  • The display shows: 1  6 and the PC dot lights up. It means that the first command is PROGRAM CHANGE (PC) #6 by default for this layer. Press the Clear button, the display shows: 1---. The PC command will not apply in this layer.

  • Press the Param> button, the display shows: 2--- and the CC dot lights up. It means that you edit the second command, it is CONTROL CHANGE and it is disabled by default in this layer. Use <Value and Value> buttons to set #64.  The CC#64 is the tap tempo controller for Line6 M5 according its manual. The display will show: 1 64. According to the global settings, you always address the Line6 M5 presets by the second command.
  • Generally, the CONTROL CHANGE MIDI command has two parameters: number and value. You just have set the CC number 64. Press the Param> button, the display shows: 2  0 and the CC and Value dots lights up. It means that you edit the second parameter of the CC command - its value. Press the <Value button, the display shows: 2127.

  • Press the Param> button, the display shows: 3--- and the PC dot lights up. It means that you edit the third command, it is PROGRAM CHANGE (PC) and it is disabled in this layer by default. The PC command will not apply in this layer

  • Press the Param> button, the display shows: 4--- and the CC dot lights up. It means that you edit the fourth command, it is CONTROL CHANGE and it is disabled in this layer by default. Use <Value and Value> buttons to set #81.  The CC#81 is the tap tempo controller for Strymon Timeline according to its manual. The display will show: 1 81According to the global settings, you always address the Strymon Timeline presets by the fourth command.
  • Press the Param> button, the display shows: 4  0 and the CC and Value dots lights up. It means that you edit the second parameter of the CC command - its value. Press the <Value button, the display shows: 4127.

  • Press shortly Edit/Save button. The settings of bank 1register 6layer 1 are saved.
Also the second - green layer of this register has to be programmed the same way. Just copy the red layer to the green layer:
  • Don't press the register 6 now, the display still must show: 16-1. It means that you are still in the bank 1register 6layer 1 - red.
  • Press shortly Edit/Save button to enter the layer edit mode.
  • Press and hold Edit/Save button for cca 2 seconds to enter the layer copy mode. The display shows: SvAs, it means Save As.
  • Press register 6, so that it lights green, the display shows: 16-2. It means that you copy the layer to the bank 1register 6layer 2 - green.
  • Press shortly Edit/Save button, the settings for the red layer are copied also to the green layer of this register.
Now when you press the register 6 repeatedly, both Line6 M5 and Strymon Timeline should accept their appropriate CCs for tap tempo control and they should set their tempo to the same values.
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#4
Uau this is beyond my expectations!!! Thank you very much!!!
Bye...!!!
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